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Tricks or Tips to improve

Discussion in 'Critique & Feedback' started by Samuel Le Tonquèze, Jul 7, 2017.

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  1. #1 Samuel Le Tonquèze, Jul 7, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2017
    I don't know if I can sit here few minutes? I would like to have some tricks or tips to improve my latest composition.
    Regards & Musically
     
  2. Hi, Samuel!

    Just my own thoughts on this - it feels like there's actually a pretty good piece in there. At the moment, there are a few things that take away from how it comes across, to my ear.

    First, the melody could use a trimming - there's too many notes. Not that you can't have melodies with lots of notes, but you need for there to be a reason for every note to have a place. Here, there's some clear ideas, and then filagrees and ornaments on top that make it confusing - is that run up idea important, or the kind of upper mordent (the twiddle upwards thing), or...well, there are lots of them, and it keeps the theme from having a strong identity.

    Really thinking about that theme would probably solve the second problem - at the moment it sounds made up at the keyboard, rather than written down and played to sound made up by the instrumentalists, if that makes sense. There's improvising, and then there's sounding like you're improvising at the keyboard, and especially string sections will never sound like the latter. Sitting down and making decisions and then bringing those decisions out when you play will solve that one.

    There's an orchestral same-ness to the sound - strings are the soul of the orchestra, sure, but those strings are doing a heck of a lot of heavy lifting in your piece, and so the theme is a bit character-less. It's meant to be emotional, but what kind? What kind of emotion, in what place? Those tenuto-like articulations throughout the first theme give the melody a sort of 'restrained' character - if that's what you're going for, why not try to make everything about the piece reflect that? If you're going for period drama 'I love you, Mr. Darcy, but this can never be' stuff, then giving the accompaniment job to mid-range bassoons is going to make much clearer the sickly, swooning in corsets, unrequited vibe. Or - whatever it is that most clearly says what it is that the theme is meant to say.

    Hope that's more helpful than rambling ;)
     
  3. #3 Samuel Le Tonquèze, Jul 11, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2017
    @Brian Bunker , Thank you very much for your reply and advices.
    Lets me take a minute to review your notes.

    Ok, so to resume or sum up: Need Less notes but the Best notes to have a strong identity on melody.
    Simplicity is synonymous with efficiency & effectiveness.

    The first appearance of the melody is arround 0:32 with Violins, there is a second part starting at 0:53. The woman voice is probably too strong and could be reduced. Do you confirm that there were to much notes at this point ?

    Then the second time, the melody is developed from 1:14 with Flutes. Violins and Horns are in background with a horizontal progression to a new atmosphere, dark. I wanted here to make a change not to make boring the listening.

    And finally, the same melody with the voice and bassoon in echo. Then the outro mirroring the intro.

    Could you point me a time line? I agree that I use a master keyboard controller. Do you think that the library rendering could be the problem?
     
  4. I believe what Brian means by that has nothing to do with the library, but the actual idea in the composition - each instrument is unique in the types of lines instrumentalists play on it and in this case it would seem you took the transcription of a keyboard improvisation and told the string players to perform it.
     
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  5. Ohh, ok I see now, thanks @Adam Alake .

    You are right, it's not a piano composition, but it should be an orchestral composition written at a piano. Keyboard is the tool to create a piece to be played by orchestra.

    I should pay more attention and visualize the instrumentalists. But it's very hard when I never played such instruments...
     

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