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The Wizards Tiny Mistake

Discussion in 'Critique & Feedback' started by Michael Lückgen, Sep 15, 2023.

  1. #1 Michael Lückgen, Sep 15, 2023
    Hey Everyone,

    I tried myself on a new longer piece. It tells a small little story.
    I wanted to try some new harmonic vocabulary, which I learned with it.

    So in case anyone is up for 8min of listening, let me know your thoughts of it!

    I'm pretty okay with it, but not so sure about a few orchestrational choices, but I don't know how to fix them.

     
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  2. #2 Bjarke Tan, Sep 17, 2023
    Awesome work and great theme. The only feedback I have is that in my opnion the ending could have given the piece more justice somehow.
     
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  3. #3 Michael Lückgen, Sep 17, 2023
    Thank you!

    What do you mean? Can you give an example of what you have in your mind?
     
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  4. #4 Bjarke Tan, Sep 17, 2023
    It might just be me but it's because I feel like the ending is a little thin compared to the rest. Maybe it could be improved by adding extra layers of orchestration like brass(for example horns in octaves and maybe a timpani) and woodwinds as support to make it a bit stronger.
    By the way I am just curious. Do you transcribe music?
    I am only asking because i just started my self and just want to know who else does it hehe.
     
  5. #5 Michael Lückgen, Sep 17, 2023
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2023
    I see what you mean.
    The reason it is not as bombastic as the middle part is because in the story the wizard is now calm, not any more in danger and learned his lesson. So I wanted to make it not as loud with the full orchestra and more like a callback to the beginning, but different.

    I do transcribe occasionally. But mostly melodies and chords. Also I copy out scores in a notation program and once reduced an orchestral score to 2 handed piano by hand, which I learned a lot from in terms of structure and development.
    If you want the most effective way, then transcribing full orchestra is the best way as Mike recommends, even though it takes time. You will learn all of the disciplines at once, while reducing omits orchestration, and copying is not valuable, but more theoretical. You won't get it under your hands if you do not transcribe. It also trains your ear, which is important. And I know that I should do more of it, but since I am not always in the place where my piano is, I am not transcribing as often as I should.
     
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  6. #6 Marko Dvojkovic, Sep 20, 2023
    This is a pretty legit 8 min piece so kudos for that! I think that any piece of music after the 1:30-2:00 minute mark becomes much harder to make work as a whole. The theme is nice and I enjoyed the reprises of it, the only thing I would maybe consider is trimming a note or two. Maybe dropping just that second eighth on the third beat and making the first eighth in that third beat staccatissimo. And because of that I wouldn't maybe choose percussion to present the melody for the first time because it lacks that level of expression (it's a good choice for the delicate context otherwise), maybe a woodwind instrument. Just my train of thoughts at the moment. Later on, you maybe began to change the rhythm of the melody too soon, at the 1:23 mark. A bit of "mickey mouseing" the action is I guess fine for a 8 min piece, but at around 3:30 I was engaged again.
    Bravo and just keep it up!
     
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