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Bravestorm OST

Discussion in 'Score Study Resources' started by Mike Verta, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. #1 Mike Verta, Aug 24, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2017
    A few people have asked me about the score I did for a film called Bravestorm, currently in theaters in Japan. I have learned there will be no official soundtrack, so I'm going to post it here. It ain't great, ain't terrible. Has a moment or two.

















     
  2. Thanks for posting Mike!

    This is some great music and I especially loved the last cue. Some really fantastic orchestration in there as well!
     
  3. #3 Mike Verta, Aug 24, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2017
    Thank you - It gets progressively more tonal and listenable as the film goes on; there were dramatic reasons for the early cues being this way. But the score reminds me of War of the Worlds in some ways where overall its not that "fun" to listen to, you know what I mean? I think for us, it's useful to study and steal things from maybe, but I prefer more tonal, structurally satisfying stuff, myself.
     
  4. I can definitely understand that!

    Since there is no clear melody, harmony or rhythm (purposely), the ear has nothing to grab onto and follow.
    Contemporary orchestral music can also suffer from this and can be very hard on the 'average' listener. This is why most people hate the work of Ligeti, Penderecki, et al.

    Listening to this type of music in context however, like during a film, really helps and gives the audience an immediate frame of reference as to its underlying intention. (Making you uneasy)

    I also just worked on a similar project (Spielberg-homage) with a lot of this 'horror' music throughout. It was not my usual style but nevertheless a ton of fun and I had the chance to use dissonant harmony, clashing rhythms, wild textures/orchestration, and other fun stuff:)

    Would love to hear the rest of the score, Mike!
     
  5. Nice Soundtrack Mike. I have a question: How you do compose on the piano for such more ambient aleatoric stuff? Like the 1m5 (Borg & Lair..)
     
  6. Reel 2 is up; that's where it starts to get going.

    That is 100% decades of experience, period. The gulf between piano and actual sound for stuff like that is so vast, you almost have to be able to just do it "blind." Like, you can almost just tell on paper by looking at it. If you listen, it's really all quasi or pseudo aleatoric - there's always some sort of tonal component or thread, and those are the parts which serve as anchors for me, whether they're pedal tones, or some sort of string motion. But for sure, unlike virtually every other type of cue, that stuff is sort of impossible to approximate, by its nature.
     
  7. Reel 3 is up.
     
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  8. Really good work Mike! You're making progress! :D ;) Just kidding! Great as always!

    Can you give us a little "Tech Talk"? Samples, Mixing, etc.., just a little insight? :)
     
  9. The rest of the score is up.

    In terms of "tech talk," Woods are Berlin, with Symphobia for clusters; Brass is Adventure Brass, with some Samplemodeling for solos and layers, and Metropolis Horns in a couple places; Percussion is mostly Spitfire with some other things I can't remember; Strings are mostly Hollywood, with some Symphobia and Metropolis layers. Synths are Diva. Aleatoric stuff is Symphobia. Symphobia 1 turned out to be a way more useful library than I ever imagined. Reflections done with Altiverb 7 and some ReVibe for overall verb.

    Creatively, the score - not sure if you can tell or not - is a bit "tired." I did it after 4 months of doing the 5.1 sound design; thousands of robot sounds and lasers and buildings falling over - there's so much stuff in this film. And then at the end, when I was creatively and physically burned out, it was time to do nearly wall-to-wall music. It's just not the best place to be writing from. But we get it done. In the end, I think you can really tell where it gels and where it doesn't, but that may just be me. Also, goes without saying it really needed a live group, but what else is new. It is very hard for me to write under pressure without leaning on things I can expect from an orchestra which don't work so well virtually. That said, the score has the most important thing to me - end-to-end structure. It is an unfolding story in which ideas build upon each other. Oh, speaking of ideas, in 4m1 I finally got to use an idea from Horner's Star Trek III which I've always wanted to steal; maybe not the same notes, but the same concept - it's this little chromatic ascension thing near the end.
     
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  10. Nice. I really like 4m2 - Especially that change at 2:22.. through to 2:50, is beautiful. Sounds like chocolate.
     
  11. Are you saying Mike ripped off Rachel Portman?
     
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  12. Can't say I know who that is, but I can attest to those few seconds being the most fun and satisfying to write :)
     
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  13. You don't know who Rachel Portman is? Seriously?

    She's a female (obviously) film composer, who has scored almost 100 films since the early 80's

    One of the films she did was "Chocolate", starring Depp and Binoche. So when Phillip said, "Sounds like chocolate", I jokingly asked if you ripped her off. Which you did not, of course. Because I was joking. Of course.
     
  14. Thanks for sharing these Mike, sounding great !!

    The passage mentioned above reminds me more of 'Jonathan's Death/Leaving Home - Forbidden Warrior :) - Anakin's Theme' but as usual you're able to craft something which sounds natural and not a patchwork of ideas awkwardly stitched together.
    I personally love how you're able to take inspiration from the music you obviously adore but present it honestly and with focus and never make it sound like a cheap imitation.
     
  15. Thanks - I hope my influences shall be ever tasty morsels in the music for those who are musically literate, since the references will go unappreciated by the other 95% :)

    Jeff- I know a director who's directed more than 100 films, none of them good. Number of things done is almost meaningless. To the point, I looked up Rachel Portman. Turns out I have never seen a single one of the things she's worked on, ever. So at least that explains that!
     
  16. Haha - I see what ya did there! The film "Chocolat" ..But no, not at all. Just saying that it sounds sweet and sexy and smooth and creamy and chocolatey and like, just give me more of that stuff! :p
     
  17. #18 Alexander Schiborr, Aug 25, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2017
    Wow, just came back from my 10 miles jogging morning and was able to listen to the whole soundtrack. Damn..there are lot of great moments I have to say..don“t know where to start, but you should really lock you up in a room, or go out for a long walk armed with your headphones and listen to the whole soundtrack.

    Is that bassdrum you used there from Spitfire btw?
     
  18. Glad to hear you enjoying it - the bass drum is Spitfire, yep!
     
  19. I'm getting some great Western vibes in some places. Love it more towards the end, probably because like you said, it gets more tonal.

    Any chance for a lossless FLAC version? :D
     
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