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The Today's Movie Situation

Discussion in 'The RedBanned Bar & Grill' started by Tino Danielzik, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. #1 Tino Danielzik, Aug 15, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2017
    Now, let me begin with something that is going on on director Jordan Vogt-Roberts (Kong: Skull Island) twitter feed. He is complaining about a YouTube Channel called Cinema Sins, which is ripping apart his movie Kong: Skull Island.
    Now, I have seen this movie and in my eyes, it has the same problems like most of the movies have today, like crappy CGI, bad acting, bad script, no drama, no score. To me it was totally boring, lame and forgettable. I am not going to defend what Cinema Sins is doing, and I am not going to defend the movie or the director's approach, I have my opinion about this movie and that's it.
    So, what can WE do to change today's movie situation? I guess one reason for this new forum is that we, the members of this forum, have some approach in common, and that is that we wanna learn how to get better, to make better music and better movies. We wouldn't have that approach if we would think that everything that is going on in today's cinemas is great. But even if we learn how to make things better, if we study all the music, the movies, moviemaking, the business and all that stuff, if we really dig deep into that and become experts, what do we change? Can we change something? Just because I learn how to become a master composer and orchestrator doesn't mean I get a better job or a job at all and can show Hollywood how it should be made. Do we get the chance to become an A-list composer and work on big blockbuster movies and write the music that we all love to a movie that we all love? Nothing points into that direction, it points into the opposite direction. So we look for other jobs where we can write the music we like, but it's not gonna change anything, because only a tiny group of people will listen to it. Yes, there are 7 billion people on the earth, but that doesn't mean there is a potential audience of 7 billion people, how many of these people do actually care? How many filmakers are out there and how many of them try to do things we actually like? If I try to look to find an audience for my music I can tell you, there will be a very VERY tiny group of people left.
    Now, who is to balme for this? Are we getting just lazy, is that the reason? Is it the global economy? The educational system? The today's distractions? What is the reason that art forms like movies and music don't have the craft of previous generations anymore and how do we get it back? I know that we don't teach all that stuff anymore, but why, when did things start to change? Studying and working hard to improve my skills is one thing, but it is a totally different thing if I wanna share it with a world that doesn't care or listen or look. How can I shoot that stupid 26 year old kid from it's "head of the studio" chair and put someone into his place who knows how to handle things, or at least who knows things?
    Yes I do sound pessimistic, because I don't know what to do with all the knowledge I might wanna have one day, if there is no one who wants to listen to it. "You write good music, great, but not for my movie buddy." "You write good music, great, but not for my concert hall / theater buddy." Ok, I post it on YouTube instead I think and see how well decades of education and hard work pay off at the end.
    I am sorry, a lot of bad movies and bad soundtracks in a row combined with stupid hipster like looking producers / directors and people who actually hate me for not liking modern stuff left me a bit frustrated.
     
  2. Did Mike not talk about this in the Film 101 class? I haven't seen it yet but I figured Mike would speak at length about a lot of these topics (when I said speak, I meant rant...)
     
  3. Interesting times we live in indeed. Thanks to advancing technology, movie making has totally changed (for better or worse) and thanks to so much content being able and being created by more people then ever before, the game has changed. Just look at youtube, which is basically a movie/tv studio where its the audience who makes the content! Pretty amazing and inconceivable just a few years ago! The content is out there, more so than ever before in history.

    As for the small slice of entertainment known as the "studio film" it plays by completely different rules than other entertainment. You can sit on the sidelines and call out a movie you disliked, but the great thing is, if you are frustrated by the quality, dont support it! Dont buy a ticket. The bottom line in Hollywood is ticket sales. (and note that some studio films arn't even being made for the "North American" audience anymore - thus the CGI heavy films - big visual action translates much better overseas than dialogue driven drama). But even better, you dont have to watch movies you dislike anymore because its the only thing in theaters, the stuff you like IS OUT THERE - you just need to find it. And being a creative person, when all else fails, make it yourself! If you feel the movie industry is in a dark age, be the light of change you want to see. Granted you do not start out in a position of power just by wishing it so, you need to put in the research, the work, and years of dedication and love, and actually produce the change you want to see. If you think, "well no one will care about my project" then take the next step and research who would care and market to them. There are so many groups out there based on niche likes - and thanks to the internet these people congregate into very large potential audiences. Find the niche you fit in and market to them! There is SO much potential, much more than ever before, for people to find and share things they like. For you to say "no one will see my work" is short sighted. You just need to get more specific in your search.

    So to summarize, yes you are not going to like all films. In fact, you will probably find faults in most films, because its this inner critic that makes you a creative person in the first place. How you choose to react to it is what will make you either a frustrated consumer, or an inspired artist.
     
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