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Cinematic Composing's Mixing and Mastering Course. Heard of it?

Discussion in 'Tips, Tricks & Talk' started by Gharun Lacy, Jul 20, 2017.

  1. My fellow composers,

    Some of us don't know Shawn Murphy personally so we have to ....gulp.....mix our work ourselves.
    I struggle with my mixing abilities (along with my piano skills, my writing skills, my orchestrations skills, my cooking skills, remembering to keep the toilet seat down, so forth and so on). I've gotten more efficient at setting up my stems and using reference tracks and I've greatly limited the amount of plugs I use. That said I still need some help.

    I've got Virtuosity cued up (cough....download....cough.....not activated....) and I'm going to watch it all the way through this weekend to see what I can pick up. But I also came in to some money (options in corn futures have been printing cash lately....I trade options to fuel my composition habit) so I don't mind dropping some cheddar if this other thing is up to snuff.

    Have any of you heard of course in the subject?
    https://cinematiccomposing.com/courses/viewTopic/206

    Any thoughts?

    G
     
  2. Virtuosity will definitely help you to understand how a recorded orchestra sounds like, and how to balance your template. Mike also provides stems from The Race with this masterclass, they are very useful!

    You'll find out a lot of things by listening to these.
     
  3. If you have ANY trouble or questions whatsoever, please don't hesitate to shoot me a question, a clip or whatever. I'll do my best to help out. Mixing is a tough nut and like any skill, requires patience and time. I wish I had somebody to point me in the right direction when I was starting out, instead of having to discover everything on my own, I could've easily saved a lot of time. So I'll help!

    If you're looking for courses, I'd suggest this: https://www.mixwiththemasters.com/register/

    Specifically for film and TV, they have a decent amount of Alan Meyerson content: https://mixwiththemasters.com/meyerson
     
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  4. I've been thinking about doing their courses for a while but I am currently paying for a Thinkspace Masters Degree and the Evenant Complete Bundle and the monthly outgoings (plus all the music subscriptions each month) are making me wait for a bit.
     
  5. @Aaron Venture - Whoa! That Mix with the Masters course is not cheap.

    As an update. @Luke Johnson - I don't think you need to spend the money. I went through Mike's Virtuosity MC and came up with some pretty straightforward methods to balance my template. Mike talking internal balance of sections really stuck in my head so that is what I went with first. Balanced the different libraries by group first (i.e. balanced the power of my Berlin Woodwind flutes with the power of my Spitfire bassoons etc.). After that I mentally referenced Rimsky-Korsakov's teachings on relative power (one horn at p = violins I at p type stuff) and balanced across the sections. After a little tweaking I had something I was comfortable with. Mocked up a couple of bars of March of the Resistance from TFA and A/B tweeked a little and I was set.

    I applied the settings to the piece I was working on and my mixing became a lot easier. I used way less processing and got a dissent result. It's not a perfect mix but it's an improvement in clarity and balance (in most places) over what I had been able to achieve previously.

     

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