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Vienna Instrument MIR Pro, thoughts and tweaks?

Discussion in 'Tips, Tricks & Talk' started by Paul T McGraw, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. Many effects such as MIR have a dry / wet knob or slider within the effect itself. That is a feature of the effect, not of Cubase. I think you are perhaps confused about what is a feature of the effect and what is a feature of Cubase.
     
  2. I stand corrected, what's the difference in functionality?
     
  3. I don't know why one would want a separate wet / dry control within Cubase for insert effects, since most effects have such a control within the effect itself.
     
  4. if you take a listen to the audio examples I've provided you'll hear a significant difference between externally and internally changing the wetness of Mir

    In this specific case the dry wet knob in Mir Pro doesn't simply remove the effect, and seems to leave most of its new pan and EQ if not all of it, all the dry wet knob seems to only change the amount of ER and tail it adds

    As a result if you use it on samples that already have a decent room sound it is such Lee squash is it to Mono pains it and he cues it based on distance and instrument family which the samples might not need at all, and completely destroys the width and psychoacoustic positioning of the original sample

    So for instance let's say you were using a Spitfire Library where everything is recorded in place in AIR Lyndhurst

    Let's say you wanted a little bit of Reverb from Mir, you put it on and put the plugins wetness to 10%

    What would happen is it would get crushed to Mono sound 50 feet farther away then it should, and not sound like it was recorded in air at all.



    @McGraw you could technically make a Reverb for each instrument and blend the original dry signal and that manually, but then you would end up with twice as many tracks having each one with a dedicated Reverb.

    All that said, I think that's why Mir Pro gets a bad rap with some people... they don't immediately know that that's an issue, so anything they put it on just trying to add a little Reverb ends up having the life sucked out of it with no clear answer as to why

    Those who use altiverb, it would essentially be like adding it to a track and it automatically with the direct signal up and turned all the way to the IR flavor
     
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  5. I am in the minority here, but that is what I do. Would never go back. Everyone has to figure what works best for their particular interest/situation.

    What gives me energy is the notes on the page. Never once have I thought to myself "I wish I was fucking around with EQ and a GUI right now"

    I also picked up better, higher paying clients, once I began pitching my service as part of a team.

    Again, to each their own. Knowledge is power, and the price is attention. So others have an advantage over me in a lot of situations, but I just knew
    I was not the guy for those anyway.
     
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